Service of Magharebia
Mohamed Abdellahi Ould Elmoustaph, 33, Imam and Mufti – Bameira
“I believe that religion should be separated from politics if the latter means deviant behaviours such… more
Mohamed Moubdiaa, parliamentarian from the Popular Movement – Rabat
“It is essential today to distinguish between political practices and spiritual peace sought by all Moroccans. Islam… more
Dawi Bo Ras, 70, strategic analyst
“Secularism emerged when the church was controlling politics, being authoritarian and exploiting religion for its own benefit. There… more
Walid Abdouli, 28, employee – Sidi Bouzid
“Religion should not be separated from politics because it is not in the nature of religion to be separated… more
Mohamed Bentaleb, 62, columnist – Algiers
“Pretending to separate religion and politics is nonsense, because the two are intertwined. Islam cannot be broken down to several… more
9 months ago
Peace and God’s mercy and blessings be upon you / / the Holy Prophet peace be upon him says((You know better about your worldly affairs)) if we are Muslims (or other religions) and submit to the heavenly regulations and legislation, then why ask seditious questions that deviate us from our right task of building a civilization and the application of an equitable justice among the people with regard to rights, duties and lift up humanity to the highest levels. I am a Muslim woman, thank God, I am sure like all other Muslims that Islam did not lose sight of anything that concerns our lives on earth and all that I see is asking questions and accomplishing tasks that lead us nowhere. God created man and gave him reason that perceives the realities of things and enable him to choose the best. Then all questions and inquiries and all the mystery and confusion will go away with time and without being aware of it because we have to be busy building constructions, science, justice, equality, and we will find the answer to all questions
There should not be separation of religion from politics, because religion is theology, law and politics, and callers for the separation are secular non-religious.
Is it reasonable to separate religion from politics? No my dear brother, religion should not be separated from politics, but we must include religion in order to make a path for politics
Yes it’s necessary to distinguish religion from politics. Why? because we are the ones who make politics. What are politics? When we say policy we refer to all the profane scattered items. Politics are a bunch of statements with lying, swindling and even polytheism in which everything is manipulated in order to please the listeners. Islam has nothing to do with politics unless opposites can meet in that case Islam can agree with politics. It’s clear and doesn’t need further explanations and thank you
Religion is right and is revealed by God and has advantages over humanity, and both jinn and mankind recognize that. As for politics, it is man made and focus on lies, interests, murder, torture, war and the treatment based on who is not with me is against me and the lack of compassion. Therefore we must either have religion without politics or politics without religion and mixing them is not permitted.
9 months ago
It was reported that (Winston Churchill) once passed by a tomb with the inscription “Here rests the honest man and the great politician”. He said it was the first time he was seeing two persons in one grave. If we consider that the exigencies of politics require specifications that are totally incompatible with the values of religion, there is no justification to mix religion with politics and the current scene of the heated competition for the political positions would be then acceptable to some extent. Yet, to use religion and force it into this stagnant pond for election gains, this is a cacophony and unjustified. On the other hand, if we consider that the very purpose of politicians is to serve the people and promote and provide for a decent life, then that’s what interests citizens like the establishment of a school or a paved road or create jobs. In the end, the citizen will not differentiate between a school or a factory founded by a liberal governor, a secular or an Islamist, though it’s certain that religion is an influencing factor and the sacred is respected in the conscience of the people. Those who hold political positions or those who are seeking ones realized this dimension. That’s why you see decision-makers use the card of religion to polish their images during election days. Once elections are over and they achieve their goals, they quickly discard it in the Recycle Bin. For a brief comparison, let’s take a look at systems based on religion and God, such as Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Afghanistan and Iran. We will not find it difficult to recognize the magnitude of the disaster afflicting the citizens in these countries by virtue of the flagrant violation of human rights and the spread of unemployment and forced ignorance and the spread of grievances. That’s why I say religion is for God, and homelands for people who have to choose the forms of rule, laws and constitutions away from religious texts, because these laws are flexible and based on experience and are adjustable and even vetoed, while with regard to religion, it’s fixed and restricting humans behaviour and organising the relationship of man with God and his relation with his or her duties towards others. Thanks Zawaya for the opportunity to participate.
Yes, this is what should be done, but there are those who could not
The separation of religion from politics remains a challenge in North-African countries. As a matter of fact, these countries, undermined by the lack of meaningful democratic and pluralist systems, are facing one of the most horrible misery, that affects the majority of the population. This is mostly due to the failure of corrupt and clientelists governments. This can be exemplified by the “Arab spring”. Therefore, it should come as no surprise that Islamist political movements are making significant progress within national parliaments with a minimum level of democracy. And everything suggests that this trend will continue in the coming years. So, the separation of religion from politics in these countries remains a pious hope! Poor people represent an important recruitment potential for Islamist currents, because the mafia-like oligarchies in power care only about themselves and are living a life of complete luxury while misery spreads among people. Deyloule.
Never, if you meant by religion (Islam), then you can not separate it from politics. Why? Because Islam is a platform to pull humanity from darkness into the light. It’s the moderate way of life and the ideal solution for all problems and concerns of people of various ages and classes … etc.. Politics can be modified (purified from hypocrisy, lies and betrayal and … etc) in order to enter the realm of Islam and its justice, hence be called policy. Otherwise it will be similar to a fox in sheep skin. Then why are there people that claim to separate Islam from politics in governance, they are but vampires who want to pull out morality and noble principles and ideals from people’s lives as well as purity, spirituality, loyalty, justice and equality of opportunities and the distribution of wealth among people with justice … etc.. Those few did not find in Islam their goal, which is namely pillaging, looting and drinking alcohol in nightclubs and raping girls and women and stealing public funds. These are the ones who want to separate Islam from politics in order no to be controlled or account for their behaviour
We should leave the Maghreb yuck and return to North Africa, the only place where we are welcome in the world.
Religion and politics should not be separated because religion is politics. Religion separates between right and wrong and mediates differences between people. Religion includes moral, economic and social aspects, and deals even with sports. The holy books are a Constitution that regulates all these matters. If we govern based on religion, things will be better than they are now under positive constitutions that cannot even resolve a dispute between two kids.
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9 months ago
In the past, mankind used to follow the logic it deemed appropriate to resolve and manage its worldly affairs. When accumulations started to overwhelm relationships between human groups, life became disrupted, and humanity became threatened by extinction as a result of conflicts and divergence in interests and desires. Then the apostles came as bringers of good tidings, and warners of the imminent danger gnawing away at the social system and threatening to end the divine function behind the creation of man. No matter how mature and aware people are, they still need tight legislation to govern and manage practices in life and the hereafter, even if the spiritual practices of people are their reflections in the universe and nature, hoping to be saved from the evils of their actions, and their harm to the environment. In ancient times, the religion revealed or created by the human mind was the framework governing and regulating all aspects of life. In the A.D. era, materialism was prevalent in society as a firm belief and a main foundation. This pushed individuals and human groups to reject the foundations, values and rules revealed by the prophets and apostles. Prior to Islam, tribalism was the basis of power in the peninsula, with a few remnants from the Hanafi and Judaic beliefs, in the form of rituals and spiritual formalities, but they were linked to the logic of the tribe and clan, along with the orders and prohibitions they dictate, and the practices they impose regarding serving the interests of the tribe. The emergence of Islam put an end to believing in the tribe and its links. People who were strong before Islam converted and embraced the new religion. Therefore, individuals became unparalleled forces in society, motivated by a spiritual power of faith and peace, until Islam reached the peak of power and greatness. Until the fifteenth century, Europe was living a period of darkness, ignorance and illiteracy, after the demise of civilization in its Greek east and Roman west. In Europe, people entrusted their religious and worldly matters to feudal and clerical figures.
They misguided people and destroyed the foundations of humanity. They drowned everyone in myths and tales about heaven and hell, after the beginning of the intellectual renaissance, and the growth of the religious reform movement that resisted the church ideology, and showed people that the clergy do not possess the forgiveness and punishment they offered to humanity. The human ideology movement followed, and concluded that inactivity and decay are caused by religion. However, that’s only true for those who take their matters in hand and imitate the divine image. The overthrow of the obscurantist religious regime made political reformers embrace the idea of separation between religion and politics, because the former is a bad omen inflicted upon them, and which kept them behind for centuries. So they claimed that what belongs to Allah stays in its place, and what belongs to people does not belong to Allah in their opinion. They consider religion a rule regulating a balanced life for humanity, whereas Islam has unprecedented and unparalleled systems. We do not need to adopt a style that is incompatible with the values of Islam, since the latter set comprehensive rules and regulations for us, allowed Ijtihad to achieve innovation and development, granted rights, and established a political governance system, unlike Western nations where materialism and inherent human instincts are prevalent.
Morocco is forever progressing. We, Moroccans, are tolerant.
Politicians need to understand religion to be able to serve people, and clerics need to stay away from politics to preserve their life and Hereafter.
I think it’s absurd to try mixing religion and politics; the former is faith-related, which is intimate, and the latter is related to the public sector! Some claim that Islam is about life and religion, and they are not wrong, but the political regimes in power should be Islamist, apply the Sharia, have a Caliphe, and have honest – not fundamentalist – political staff. As long as some people only accept democracy to reach power, then divert it for their own objectives (their “thirst for power”) in the name of Islam, the latter will be resisted or even rejected. By doing that, these zealots will be cutting off their nose to spite their face! The only proof I need is the results of the Islamists (Green Alliance) in the recent Algerian elections! Claiming otherwise would be cheap literature!!!
9 months ago
Didn’t the master of the nation succeed in managing the Islamic State? Don’t we believe that Allah is the truth, and that His messenger was sent to all mankind with a unified message that’s valid for all times and places? Did the messenger of Allah separate religion and politics? Didn’t he use religion as a foundation to build the Islamic state? Fear Allah! You will not harm Allah. “And whoever turns away from My remembrance – indeed, he will have a depressed life, and We will gather him on the Day of Resurrection blind.” Those are the words of Allah, so what’s our answer? Aren’t we having a depressed life? May Allah guide our governors to our best.
In the name of God, religion is the basis of everything and is otherworldly while politics is profane and is not indispensable. Religion is a science that illuminates everything, and is victorious, God willing. I hope that peoples and leaders separate religion from politics because if they don’t then that’s playing with fire and offending the sacred. God is the Guide and God knows
We Muslims should have our ideal in the Messenger of Allah – PBUH – If the Prophet – PBUH – had separated the religion from politics, then we should not discuss it and follow his example. Did the Prophet – PBUH – when migrating to Medina stick to the status of imam in the mosque and pray with people and give sermons and lessons, while leaving political action to others? His tradition shows the opposite. He was the head of the first Islamic state that was established on earth, and it is known that the position of head of state is a political one and its holder, exercises political activity, so did the prophet – PBUH – separate religion from politics? I think that those who discuss this matter are questioning the work of the Prophet – PBUH.- Are we better than Abu Bakr – may Allah be pleased with him – who presided over the state after the death of the Prophet? Islam is the only system capable of making policy serve the interests of the people, and not the interests of rulers and their cohorts like in many old or new systems.
9 months ago
We must separate religion and politics, because whoever mixes the two only seeks the sympathy of religious people to have their votes. Therefore, I believe that it’s mere deceit in the name of religion.
9 months ago
We must separate religion and politics, because the basis of religion is fighting lies, whereas politics is the finest form of lying. People should fulfill their promises, or expose those who prevent them from doing so. Politicians often fail to respect their promises.
On reading history carefully we can understand the concept of policy. If it is the conduct of the affairs of the nation in all fields then it’s one of the principles of management, hence considered a manner of facilitating the life of the individual. Therefore it can not be separated from religion because it is supposed to be derived from the working methods of the Almighty who stated = (We have not neglected in the Register a thing)
8 months ago
Abu Ahmed, Algeria. What’s this strange question about separating religion and politics? Did the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) separate religion and politics? Why are you discussing this Western term that has no religion? Did Omar ibn al-Khattab who ruled the world apply secularism? By Allah, we Muslims will not progress unless we return to our religion and apply Allah’s law. Then we will restore our pride, and the West will fear us. We must develop our economy, and unite under one banner and behind one Imam, in order to restore our pride.
Politics stems from religion, but religion is authentic.
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